We Talked to the âAllâs Fairâ Cast About Merkins, Divorce and Lubeâand It Was as Hilariously Chaotic as It Sounds
- - We Talked to the âAllâs Fairâ Cast About Merkins, Divorce and Lubeâand It Was as Hilariously Chaotic as It Sounds
Brianne TracyOctober 30, 2025 at 8:30 PM
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Kim Kardashian is courting chaos amongst her Allâs Fair castmates. The glamorous groupâwhich, in addition to Kardashian, includes Glenn Close, Niecy Nash-Betts, Naomi Watts, Sarah Paulson and Teyana Taylorâis on-set of their People shoot in Los Angeles on Oct. 16, two days after Kardashianâs brand Skims launched (and quickly sold out) their viral faux pubic hair thong. At mere mention of the unconventional lingerie, the wheels of the conversation quickly âfall off,â as Nash-Betts puts it. âMerkins are the new Birkins,â Kardashian quips, sparking lots of riffing from the women. Eventually she tells the group, âLetâs keep it together!â
Over the course of the three-hour shoot, it becomes clear just how tight a bond they created while filming Allâs Fair, Ryan Murphyâs new Hulu legal drama premiering Nov. 4. As the women trickle in one by one from the upstairs of the London West Hollywood for the shoot in the hotelâs ballroom, they are each met with hugs and compliments from the ladies who arrived before them. Close and Watts even pull out their phones to record Taylorâs arrival in her sleek, black designer outfit paired with giant Garfield slippers.
A week before they started filming, Murphy hosted a dinner so the group could get to know one another. âI think that really helped set the tone for what our relationship would be,â says Kardashian, 45. âWe all had dinner, talked s---, had some drinks and really just got to know each other on a personal level.â
Set in L.A., Allâs Fair follows a team of high-powered female divorce attorneys who leave a male-dominated firm to open their own practice. As the team takes on new cases and clientsâplayed by guest stars like Judith Light, Brooke Shields, Jessica Simpson and Rick Springfieldâthey also navigate personal relationships, secrets and shifting allegiances.
âThe theme every week is we have a story of a woman going through an unfortunate situation, and we're there to help her,â says Kardashian. âI think that the moral of this story for us as women is even if you are having a hard time, even if you don't believe in yourself at that moment, your lawyers are there, your girls are there to pick you up and help you believe in yourself again.â
Kardashian was No. 1 on the call sheet and the first to join the cast as Allura Grant, a lawyer going through her own divorce from her professional quarterback husband. âI mean, itâs Ryan Murphyâof course youâve got to say yes,â she says of taking the role, loosely based on her real-life lawyer Laura Wasser, who served as a writing consultant on the series.
âLaura happened to be my attorney for two divorces out of the three, and her dad was my mom [Kris Jenner]'s attorney during her divorce with my dad [Robert Kardashian],â says Kardashian, who worked with Wasser during her divorces from exes Kanye West in 2022 and Kris Humphries in 2013 (she also divorced Damon Thomas in 2004). âSo she has 40 years of stories, and I felt like I drew inspiration from seeing what a bad-ass woman she's been.â
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Sarah Paulson and Kim Kardashian
Murphy was inspired to craft the Allâs Fair world around Kardashianâwho shares kids North, 12, Saint, 9, Chicago, 7, and Psalm, 6, with Westâafter they worked together on her first major acting role in the 12th season of his series American Horror Story: Delicate. At first he approached her with a show idea based upon her more than 15 years on reality TV, both on Keeping Up With the Kardashians and The Kardashians.
âI was just like, âNo, I donât think thatâs something that Iâd be into,â â Kardashian recalls. âI think he was really shocked by that.â
Murphy then came back to her once again, this time with a show idea based on her seven-year law journey. âI was so for it,â she says. âI think what was really interesting is he came up with the concept first. Then he came up with his dream cast. Once everyone signed on, he wrote for every person. He said itâs usually the opposite.â As Murphy would text Kardashian about each new addition to the cast, âIâd be like, âNo way!â â she says. âI didnât even believe it was real until I showed up.â
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Teyana Taylor and Glenn Close
When it came time to film, Kardashian was focused on showing up prepared. âI am standing next to people who have done this a very long time and who I admire and respect and are the best at what they do,â she says. âNiecy would say, âThat was amazing. Why donât you try it this way?â And just watching Glenn and seeing her character come to life with rage and tears. . . . You learn something new every single day.â
Close, 78, like her Allâs Fair character Dina Standish, served as a mentor to the group. âIâm pretty confident everyone will say that we were all a little in awe that we were having this experience getting to watch and work with her,â says Paulson, 50. âShe was so kind and generous to everyone.â
Nash-Betts, 55, adds that the 101 Dalmatians actress has âa wicked sense of humor,â and Taylor, 34, affectionately gave her a nickname inspired by Love Island USA: âShe was mommy . . . Mamacita.â
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Naomi Watts and Niecy Nash-Betts
In turn, Close says, the women âall mentored me" â and they were still teaching her things, even on set. During the shoot, Taylor demonstrated the gestures for âclock itâ (touching your pointer finger to your thumb) and âeat itâ (touching your middle finger to your thumb).
Close asked for an explanation of "eat it."
âLike, clock your pixie because itâs eating.â
But what's a pixie? Close asked. âYour haircut!â Taylor responded.
The prep would come in handy when Kardashian wrangled the group for a TikTok; watching her work, it's not a surprise that Watts, 57, says the cast was in awe of Kardashianâs multitasking skills during filming. âWe were watching her run a company and talk to her kids at night, like, âIs homework done? Get to bed. What have you eaten?â â
Nash-Betts would often âquizâ Kardashian as she also juggled studying on-set for the bar exam, which she took in July after six years of a law apprenticeship and passing both the baby bar and the Multistate Professional Responsibility Examination (a test required in California for candidates to be able to take the bar without an accredited law school education). She finds out her results in November.
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Sarah Paulson, Kim Kardashian and Niecy Nash-Betts behind the scenes of All's Fair
âShe was studying the law and dealing with this character and running lines,â says Watts, who plays Alluraâs best friend, Liberty Ronson. âShe crushed it daily.â
Kardashian takes a moment to say she felt like she âtortured you guys reading my flashcardsâ in between lines. âIt wasnât tortureâI was amazed,â says Close. Adds Nash-Betts: âIt was women supporting women in front of and behind the camera.â
But what would a Murphy show be without some drama? Paulson serves up plenty as Carrington âCarrâ Lane, the antagonist to Kardashianâs Allura who is left behind at the old firm and takes on Alluraâs ex as her client in their divorce as an act of revenge.
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Teyana Taylor in All's Fair
âI had to say some really scandalous things in Kimâs face,â says Paulson. âI did at one time spit a potato chip on her. I was in her face screaming, and it was like, âBing!â I saw it go in her eye.â
While Paulson has worked on at least a dozen Murphy projects prior to this one, it's not often that she gets to play the villain. âI had the best time, I really did,â she says. âI love working in a high-stakes environment, and I donât mean the environment of the set but of the scene.â That intensity was often cut with laughter. âSarah and Kim sometimes could not look at each other without laughing,â says Close.
Nash-Bettsâwho plays no-nonsense partner Emerald Greeneâsays sheâs never experienced âthis levelâ of support on a set. âSome of us are not chickens that just hatched,â she says, while Close feigns shock. âWe got a few feathers; weâve been around the block a few times. When I was on the set of Ryanâs Scream Queens, I was looking for somebody grown to have a conversation with, so I love yâall for that.â
The youngest of the cast is Taylor, who plays Milan, an aspiring lawyer and mentee to Kardashianâs Allura. In the trailer, though, itâs revealed that Milan is keeping a secret: Sheâs having an affair with Alluraâs ex. âMilan is the baby of the group and has stripes to earn and is figuring out how to navigate it,â says Taylor. âAllura is gracious enough to help her navigate, even though Milan has made mistakes. I think itâs important because it shows community and shows we wonât let men come between that community.â
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Glenn Close behind the scenes of All's Fair
And only a tight-knit community could receive the gift of salmon-sperm facials the way this one did. During the interview, Kardashian says she gifted the women the experience as an early Christmas present, in addition to items from Skims, Balenciaga and Gucci.
â[My sister] Kourtney went to go get a facial yesterday at the salmon-sperm place, and they said, âOh, well none of the girls have used it, so I'm going to give you a free one,â â she recalls. âI was like, âWhy wouldnât you get it?!â â
The group jumps to their own defense: âWait, I was so excited about the gifts, I donât think I opened the envelope. It was some salmon sperm in there?â Taylor asks. âGirl, why didnât you say that?â
Nash-Betts is quick to chime in: âIâm using mine!â
Kardashian wasnât the only one to give gifts: Close gave the women Lucite nameplates with their charactersâ names on it to sit on their desks. Taylor left some perfumes in Paulsonâs trailer after she âbullied me for my scent.â
And Watts, founder of the menopause beauty company Stripes, says she, âof course, handed out lube,â which Close is surprised to hear.
âGlennâs like, âI donât think I got that,â â says Paulson; Close agrees: âIâm like, âNo. Lube?â Itâs been so long.â (Watts assures her, "I will set you up.â)
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The cast of All's Fair
If the cast has any regrets, itâs not stealing Closeâs phone to call her Fatal Attraction costar Michael Douglas during their screening of the 1987 film at Jennerâs home. Jennerâwho served as an executive producer on Allâs Fairâhosted the screening after Kardashian revealed sheâd never seen the film.
âGlenn was drunkâwhy didnât we take her phone?!â asks Kardashian. Paulson deadpans: âMichael, youâre getting a call.â
The women crack up as they recall Jenner falling asleep during the movie (âYour mom popped up with her hair split in the back,â Paulson tells Kardashian) and Glennâs commentary on what she remembered most about each scene.
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Close says it had been âa very long timeâ since sheâd revisited the film. âI shocked myself,â she says. âIt was wonderful to realize that the movie holds up incredibly well.â
As for Kardashianâs reaction? âIt was insane, from the outfits to the boobs to theâ,â she says, as Close interrupts: âI like that she says outfits first.â
In fact, Close has written into her contracts that she can take wardrobe home from her sets. âI laugh because if [Kim] could see my closet at home, I donât even know what her reaction would be,â Close says. âEvery time I walk into my closet, I think of her.â
This prompts the group to come up with a plan for their next adventure after Allâs Fair promotion wraps. âGlenn, weâre coming over,â jokes Nash-Betts.
âWith a camera,â Paulson adds, âand a bunch of merkins.â
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Photographer: Greg Swales
Cinematographer: Eric Longden
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